podcastle ([info]podcastle) wrote,
@ 2008-03-08 09:41:00
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Grammar
Posted by Ann

Those of you who know me personally know that a good way to annoy me is to declare singular they to be ungrammatical.

Rant, condensed--Is not, and even if it were, if it was good enough for Jane Austen, it's damn well good enough for me.

So. I read and very much enjoyed this essay on the topic. Which I found via Language Log. You all read Language Log, don't you? Yes?

The last time the Academic-Industrial Complex unilaterally changed the rules of grammar was in the 18th century, when grammarians, taking a bit too much of a cue from Latin, made up a rule that pronouns had to agree in number with their antecedents, a “rule” which, in fact, had been regularly violated by such writers as Chaucer, Shakespeare, and Jane Austen to say nothing of thousands of less notable authors and, no doubt, hundreds of thousands of plain old native English speakers.


Go, read!



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[info]angryricecooker
2008-03-08 06:56 pm UTC (link)
Woo, language log.

I like the point of "he" being very clearly not sex-neutral because it's a wonderful case where honest-to-god evidence about the way language works completely refutes a bad point. If "he" were gender neutral, we could use it in cases where the presumed gender is female. In a case such as "Who can afford to allow a virtual feminist to elbow his way like a noisy drunk into that inner mental circle," "he" sounds wrong for the indeterminate, even though it's perfectly possible for a feminist to be a man. This would be completely natural if "he" were gender-neutral. Ergo, "he" is not gender neutral (at least for my internal version of English).

That the anti-singular-they ranter provided this excellent example of the pheonomenon is just wonderful icing on the cake.

This was kind of a longer comment than I expected. I guess I'm kind of a singular-they fanboy.

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[info]ann_leckie
2008-03-08 07:08 pm UTC (link)
:)

Me too!

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